They see the pope as a heretic and question the legitimacy of the bishops: Especially in the US traditionalist circles are growing more radical. For 30 years Mike Lewis was one of them. Today he's educating people on the subject with his Website "wherepeteris.com". In our interview we discuss what role Pope Francis played in his change of mind and why he thinks some catholic live in schism. We also talk about the German reform process "Synodaler Weg".
